Dec 3, 2006

 

 

Electric Window Motor Repair/Replacement

'95 Cobra (Other Years May Be The Same)

Aug 12, 2004

by dan (Dano) walters

 

 


 

 

The other day, I put the driver's window down (Express Travel), and when it hit the bottom, I could hear the motor still grinding.  I tapped the switch, and it stopped.  When the window was raised, it only went 1/2 way.  Each time I hit the UP button, all I could hear was  the motor grinding.  Luckily, I was in my garage by then, and not stuck out somewhere in the rain.  I was able to open the door, and lift up slightly on the glass, with the UP switch pressed, and help it along to the top of it's travel.

 

 

I don't know what years of Cobra (or mustang, in general) that have the same type of electric window motor as mine, so you'll have to check & compare your part number with the one in one of my photos, and cross check with Ford,  for suitability.

 

 

A mechanic friend of mine (Scott)  told me the labor was going to be $80, and $190 for a new motor. I said "WTF," and pumped him for some info - pulled the motor out, opened up the cover on the motor and found the remains of three neophrene balls (they act like bearings, and are approx. 5/16 in diameter).  It was a mess - looked like crumpled breadcrumbs.   I then took it to him. He replaced the three friction bearings (neophrene-like) with six 7/16 or 1/2'' flat nuts, greased up the worm gear plate, slapped it back together, and I gave him $20 for his lunch. Sounds like crap, I know, but I'll explain later ...

 

 

Just so happens, he's the one that bought my old farm house in the country with 3 1/2 acres, about 3 years ago, for $120K. I guess it didn't fall down around his ears because  he still helps me when I ask for it.  He's the service manager, and head mechanic at FM 78 Automotive, in Converse, Texas.   We lived in the house for 22 years, and got tired/finished rebuilding it (farm house was about 60 years old).

 

 

Now I can feel better about spending $190 to get my speedometer repaired (I can justify it to my wife!). Some guys have a "Boss 302," but I've got a "Boss" and a "302". LOL

 

 

New Info & P/N's Added:   12 Aug '04

See "NOTE" Below ...

 

Well, let's get on to the details & photos

The manual says "remove the door panel, and then take the motor out ... "

I've got a little more to add to that

I'm long winded, so you may want to skip over some obvious steps

Tools you will need

1)  Maintenance manual (extra ammunition never hurts)

2)  Door panel removal tool (or small flat blade screwdriver)

3)  1/4 drive Metric (possibly S.A.E.) socket, extension (if shallow socket), and ratchet

4)  Cross point, and a small blade common screwdriver

5)  Metric (possibly S.A.E.) allen wrench

6)  Inspection mirror

7)  A good, bright, flashlight

8)  Rags

 

 

 

Door Panel Removal

(window should be up)

 

Note 1:   Some of the wires are attached to the door with "Push In Plastic Trees".   Pull them out carefully - they need to be reused

Note 2:   The relationship of the motor gear and the window mechanism will become clear, after you remove the motor

Note 3:   Protect your seat, carpet, and floor mat -  there were a lot of deteriorated foam pads and such, under the door panel (nasty)

 

 

1)  Disconnect battery

 

 

2)  Carefully remove the switch panel from the door.  A small blade screwdriver can be inserted along the edge,   pry up gently, and then pull the panel out.  Disconnect electrical connector from mirror switch, and remove 2 screws from the back of the door lock & window switch.

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3)  Remove panel around & behind door handle (same caution as in step 2)

 

 

4)  Remove 2 screws securing door panel to door (near door handle)

 

 

5)  Remove upper speaker cover (pry gently with small blade screwdriver, and pull out on cover - you may have to wiggle it around - mine was kind of tight, and had a little glue on it, but it just pulls off).   Disconnect the 2 speaker wires, and mark the terminal that has the solid black wire (for reassembly)

 

 

6)  Remove the plastic retainer (plastic tree, plug,  or whatever you call it) from the lower, front edge of the door panel

 

 

7)  Lift up and pull out on door panel.  See photos for view of catches that hold the door panel on

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8)  Disconnect electrical connector for electric door lock (NOTE:  when you test the motor, after reinstallation, this has to be connected for power to get to the window motor)

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Note:  I found this part in the bottom of the door - don't know if I knocked it loose when I pulled up on the window, or if it's been there all along.  It attaches to the bottom of the glass, and the arm slides up and down a channel, to guide the window

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9)   Set panel aside, disconnect electrical connector for window motor (2-wire connector).  The plastic tree on this connector is attached to the connector and can be removed - remember to put it back on, later.  Carefully pull back the water-protection barrier paper from the door.  Fold it back out of the way, and try not to tear it

 

 

10)  If your door has been drilled, remove the 3 mount bolts holding the motor in place.  If it hasn't been drilled, you won't be able to see the bolts.  Instead, you'll see 3 large dimples in the door metal .  A hole large enough for your socket to fit through has to be drilled, in the center of each dimple (see photo for hole locations)

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11)  Slide your arm inside the door, underneath the window mechanism and stabilizer, and remove motor

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What's wrong With The Motor?

Your balls are probably broken   :~)

 

 

1)  Remove the cover from the part of the motor that has the mount bolt holes.  It may be "staked-in," on the back side (crimp in the cover), so you can pry on it a little, or carefully tap it off with a small hammer & punch (this is cast metal, so be careful not to crack it!)

 

 

2)  Remove the C-clip retainer & washer from the shaft.  The C-clip can easily be damaged beyond repair!

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3)  Remove the steel gear.  There should be 3 neophrene-like balls underneath the gear, sitting in the plastic plate (which is a gear itself, driven by the motor worm gear)

 

 

4)  If the balls are destroyed, replace them and reassemble the motor.  You can ask  NAPA or Ford for a kit that possibly contains just the parts you need.  I used 7/16 or 1/2' flat nuts on mine.  The base of the steel gear has 3 indentations on it - one bearing (or nut) needs to align with each indentation.  It was kind of tricky getting the flats of the nuts to align properly, for the gear to slide back into place.  If the nuts are too small, the gear will turn right on past the nuts; if the nuts/bearings are too thick, the steel gear won't sit down all the way, and then the washer & C-clip won't seat all the way on the shaft.  The purpose of the bearings are to provide friction against the gear,   and "break" if too much resistance is met by the motor.  By using nuts instead of plastic bearings, you are removing that safety feature, and the window tends to travel up a tiny bit too far, because there is no "give" present from the plastic bearings.  My window goes about 1/8" past where the window tint stops, so I have to regulate the up travel, and not let it slam up to the top and "cinch down."  If this seems like too much trouble, I'd recommend getting a kit with new plastic bearings.

"NOTE:"   I rec'd an E-Mail from a Cobra owner who had looked at this page.  He sent me the part numbers for the plastic balls ... they are real cheap.  Here's what he had to say:

"Hi Dan, I just got through checking out your power window repair article and figured I would let you know about a source for the nylon bushings. The bushings, Part Number  WLK-52, are available seperately in a package of 3 from National Automotive Lines Inc, www.natauto.com or 1-800-428-4300. Be prepared for the price though, they are a whopping $1.57 for a 3 pak.

I have not found any application that they wont work on. Their is kind of a trick to install though, they will seem too big. What you need to do is apply some grease to the gear body and instead of dropping the bushings straight down into their respective slots use the grease to keep the bushings (all three at once) suspended above their seats, and at an angle outward, then just line up the gear on top of them then push, make sure that everything is lined up and not binding then push like hell, or maybe use a hammer of your choice to tap it down into place. Now you have a proper, quiet and safer fix.  Hope this helps, maybe you can pass this on to all your Ford friends, I was in the auto parts for 30 years and never saw a source for these except National. The guys on the toll free number are friendly, helpful and knowledgeable, heck they dont even act like a bunch of yankees!

Hal   (Kerrville, Texas)"

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5)  Inspect the plastic plate that meshes with the worm gear.  If it's stripped, try to get a kit that includes a new plate

 

 

6)  Clean all debris from the gear area, lubricate the bearings (or nuts) with a heavy grease, install steel gear,  washer and   C-clip.  Install cover over gear, and lubricate the steel gear

 

 

7)  Reinstall motor.

 

 

8)  Slide the motor into place, and push the elect connector up to it's hole.  Lift motor into place, and rotate it slowly, to aligh the teeth of both the steel gear, and the window lift mechanism arm.  Look into the hole and you'll see the arm that the gear has to mesh with.  Hold the motor against the arm and start all 3 mount bolts.  If it feels flush, tighten the bolts

 

9)  Connect battery
 

10)  Place door panel near the door, with one end of it sticking up by the steering wheel, to support that end.  Connect the motor and door lock elect connectors.  Turn key to a ACC, and do a quick power-on test of the motor.

 

 

11)  Either disconnect battery again, or continue reinstalling panel & trim parts.

 

 

12)  Move door panel out of the way, and re-insert all plastic trees you pulled out.  Press water protection cover back into place - make sure you push the plastic into the little pockets in the door, so the catches will be able to go into place.  Move door panel back into place and hook-up all elect connectors (I had an unused round elect connector near the bottom of the door - it must be for an optional OEM alarm system or something).

 

 

13)  Refer to photo of catches along bottom of and in the center of door panel, lift into place, and insert door lock shaft through it's opening on the panel, position catches into their pockets, and push in and down.  When you're sure all catches are in place (and the lock knob shaft is through the hole), push down hard on the top of the panel.  I hit it solidly all along the top edge, and it dropped right into place.  Try pulling out at the bottom to make sure it's locked into place

 

 

14)  Replace the plastic plug on front edge of panel, the 2 screws in the center of the panel, and the trim & speaker pieces.    You're done

 

 


If you come across anything that I didn't mention, please let me know, and I'll add it to this page.


 

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